– It looks as if the Aircraft Marshaller that was in front of the Delta 747 is at fault. When he brought his hands back down, the pilot thought all was secure and that the jet was hooked up so the pilot released the brakes. The tow bar wasn’t even attached when the 747 started to roll.

There was a mis-communication with the ramper that was performing the signalling. If the jet was to be towed in, the engines would have been shutdown prior to this. The tow bar was not connected to the tug and was pulled out of the way by the ramper and was not connected to the tug or the aircraft. The ramper on the ground was signalling for the pilots to “hold” without the proper wands and only for a few moments, but then he just walked away. The ground crew was not plugged into the plane and if the pilots knew they were getting pulled into the gate, the engines would have been shut down.

Does anyone have a factual cause?? Please comment.

23 COMMENTS

  1. I say it's the marshallers fault cause the pilots can't see as to what is under them and there needs to be a person in front of the pilots to visually see and to tell them to set brakes. If the marshaller walks away then they have no visual person to tell them that there are people under the plane. I know this cause I am a ground marshaller myself.

  2. Looking closely, it appears that the marshaller has his open hands raised and has then closed his fists – the standard signal to apply park brakes. That is why he walked away. He must have received what he perceived to be an acknowledgement from the cockpit. Nothing more to be done.

    The pilots – once park brakes are applied should shut the engines down. You don't tow an aircraft into a tow-in gate with engines running. Importantly you don't stop short at a tow-in gate and then decide to power into the gate. The pushback would have been visible to the pilots as they taxiied up the entry line.

  3. ***it is the ramp agents fault, he gave the pilot the wrong signal. Instead of giving the pilots the set brakes signal, he gave the pilots the release brake signal. I know because i work at JFK

  4. The wheels should have been chocked. So we can say it was the fault of the pilots but in the end they will blame the ground crew because this never would have happened had the followed procedure for hooking up a towbar.

  5. every comment is almost completely wrong. 100 percent, it is the pilots and the guys that are hooking up the tow bar. In no way was it the marshallers fault. there should have been a wheel choke. pilots are not to release breaks unless told by ground crew on headset or given proper hand signal. marshaller did not give the wrong signal, because dropping the arms is not the international signal for release breaks. the 90 percent of fault, is on the pilot, 10 percent ground crew

  6. Oh-oh….. no fault of the pilot….. that is a HUGE bird; the tail is 6 stories and the max weight at take off is one MILLION tons! The Marshaller better have his shit together!

  7. I use to be a Ground Crew controller. And the Hand single that he is giving the Pilot is the wood Blocks are in place in the front landing Gear and that you should apply the parking Brakes. But either way Its also the Pilots who are responsible for being in communication with the Ground Crew. Before taking their Foot of the Brakes or Releasing the Braking Brake.
    If the Ground Crew can not establish any communication then they just then use a Head set to contact the Flight Deck to speak with the Capitan. So either way Its the Pilots who Failed to Follow the Most important Rule Set By the FAA. Do not Release the Brakes Until the Capitan speaks to the Ground Crew on the Headset or by hand single that says Clear to release the Brakes. So the Whole thing Falls on the Pilot Not the Ground Crew.

  8. Im proper training from the ground crew and DEFENETLY the Captain was a MORON .!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As soon as he lands and comunicates to ramp control , he is instructed to proceed to the asigned gate and he is instructed that he will be "TOWED IN " Both are at fault !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank God no one was injured and hopefully no severe damage to the nose gear !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FAA PISS TEST FOR ALL Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

  9. Obviously the pilot thought he could release his brakes and the marshaller should have kept the X up til the pushback was hooked up and plane was chocked.

  10. Yes. The ground marshaller is at fault for failing to communicate properly with the flight deck. The proper signals to use are: Stop, Set Brakes, Request at least 3 of the 4 engines be shut down, Hold (waiting for towbar and push tug to be hooked up as well as interphone communications), and then Headsets For Further Instructions. An additional wait of 5 minutes by the marshaller would have ensured the safe hookup and tow of the aircraft into the gate.

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